Preeto: satnam penji
Penji: satnaam jee
Penji: dandauth bandhna jee
Penji: i had my 1st vaja lesson on sunday
Penji: yeh i really enjoyed it
Preeto: good stick to it
Preeto: you'll be amazxed how much you learn even going once a week
Penji: yes we will really try with gurkirpa
Penji: the gyani who teaches is blind
Penji: but he comes all the way from east london on the tube
Preeto: gurbani says dont call the one who cant see blind, call the ones who are ignorant of god - blind.
Penji: yes true i was just amazed at how he just got on with his life
Penji: and took the tube etc
Penji: i am really excited for my next lesson
Preeto: do what you enjoy
Preeto: put your heart into it
Preeto: then your prayer is heard
Preeto: then it comes true for you
Penji: and for the first time i am enjoying it truely from the heart
Penji: when ur young u are forced to learn
Preeto: yes
Preeto: told my dad yesterday am plannng to go to see Baba ji
Preeto: he said "havent you left your Baba yet, like the others?"
Preeto: we smiled
Preeto: he carried on about Babas and their deras (centres) getting your money and live a lavish lifestyle off your hard work etc
Penji: oh really he said that
Preeto: we said our Sikh Gurus had Deras too in the beginning
Preeto: he said they were different, they were true, but there are fakes now
Preeto: we said there were "fakes" then too even in the Guru's own families who tired to fool the Sikhs, like Prithi Chand the son of the fourth Guru, preached against his own brother Guru Arjun Dev ji
Preeto: we said Baba ji and Dassan Dass ji earn their own money and live with their own families, they don't have any Dera, centre.
Preeto: We said that this Sangat is small
Preeto: everytime it grows, something happens and people leave
Penji: my mum also says these Babas are only after your money
Penji: like I care, are we gonna take this money with us?
Preeto: when people talk they actually are telling you their own state of mind
Preeto: they are telling us that MONEY is their guru
Preeto: but rather than pointing finger inside and realising it is their LOBH (greed) talking they point it outside and accuse others of being greedy!!!
Preeto: Dad said I know more than these Babas
Preeto: and dont need anyone
Preeto: should just stay at home and do my own simran
Preeto: he said everyone is just using MY children!! you are not clever like they are!!!
Penji: oh yeh my mums the same
Penji: you are too naive etc
Penji: people are really bad out there
Penji: keep away from all these people you should just go to the gurdwara etc
Preeto: again projecting their own fears on their children, instead of freeing their hearts
Penji: they say you have to be selfish etc to survive in this world
Preeto: when all is God, then who is good and who is bad?
Preeto: when all is God, then what is mine and what is yours?
Preeto: when all is God then who to blame for pain and suffering, when it is God experiencing it all himself
Preeto: only problem is that whilst we think I, ME, MINE, then all the problems come in
Preeto: even we realised the other day
Preeto: even our simran is NOT for me
Preeto: is not for ME getting spiritual rewards
Preeto: is not for MY peace of mind
Preeto: because even that is still selfish
Preeto: we said to Baba ji once, "thankyou so much for doing your Bhagti and bringing the Satnaam into this Dark world."
Preeto: Baba ji said, "we did it all for you."
Penji: awww
Penji: really
Preeto: That's why we do bandagi
Preeto: so we become nothing and Satnaam becomes everything in this world for the ones who are suffering
Preeto: we said to our Dad
Preeto: if HE has given us comforts
Preeto: if he has given us this heavenly life
Preeto: as opposed to the hell we see on TV news everyday
Preeto: then if we just stay inside our comfort zone, doing simran for ourself
Preeto: then this heaven will become hell for us too.
Preeto: And Dad said yes, and mentioned a few friends of his who suffered alot before they died even though they were religious
Preeto: we said when so many people are struggling with their minds
Preeto: if we can help someone through an email or the website
Preeto: to get through the same things we struggled with
Preeto: then what is wrong with that? He knew we were right.
Preeto: Last time we saw Baba ji, we also mentioned our Dad says why are you doing this - i.e. you are getting used by these Babas.
Preeto: Baba ji said you should tell your dad, "I am drinking the poison of the suffering ones, tell me are you helping anyone, is anyone else in the family helping anyone except their own family?"
Penji: wow
Penji: yes thats soooo true paji
Penji: we were talking about your dhan dhan seva yesterday as well
Penji: to our mama
Preeto: All our parents are crying about is the fact we are not keeping our wealth, time, energy for promotion of our family, or religious community,
Penji: yep
Penji: all parents want is for us to do well financially
Penji: status etc
Preeto: our guru wants us to do well as well
Preeto: satguru kee seva sfal ha
Preeto: seva of the satguru is the true success
Preeto: satguru tumaray kaaj savaraay
Preeto: satguru takes care of all your tasks
Preeto: doing well financially - plenty of people do well like that, but completely empty inside
Penji: exactly
Preeto: we would rather be full inside and empty handed
Preeto: but satguru ji still keeps filling our hands out of his kindness
Preeto: then we just keep using that to serve others
Preeto: and he keeps giving
Preeto: and we keep sharing it
Penji: you are dhan dhan paji
Penji: your seva is dhan dhan
Preeto: so why do we need to worry?
Penji: jee
Preeto: somebody has made their family into their foundation
Preeto: somebody has made money their foundation
Preeto: somebody has made religious identity and rules their foundation
Preeto: somebody has made their job and career, or their looks and reputation their foundation
Preeto: in the end when those foundations collapse, when you lose your job, lose your reputation, lose your looks, lose your faith in your fellow religious community, then you lose your mind too
Preeto: they built their house on a false foundation
Penji: and have nervous breakdown
Penji: and become depressed
Preeto: sachaa naam mera adharo
Preeto: only the Truth Naam is my foundation, my support
Preeto: and that is why we hold onto satguru baba ji's feet in our heart
Preeto: so when dad says "havent you left that baba yet?"
Preeto: so how can we pull his feet out of our heart?
Preeto: we would have to cut our heart out as well
Preeto: and then we would die. Right in th beginning we listened to our dad and left Baba ji, but we felt like the Light had just gone out inside us and we were back in the darkness without any hope. We just cried and cried and realised our mistake and apologised to Baba ji.
Penji: wow
Preeto: some things can be mixed and separated again
Preeto: that was false love
Preeto: but we always pray for such a love
Preeto: that a drop has for the ocean when it merges once and for always
Preeto: and that same drop can never be taken out again
Penji: jee
Preeto: aasee preet karo munn meray
Preeto: ..have such a love o my mind
Preeto: have such a love
Preeto: ut pahar jano prabh neray
Preeto: know that God is with you at all times
Preeto: that baba ji's feet are in our heart every second
Preeto: SAT SAT SAT SAT
Penji: satnaam sada sada sat sat sat
Preeto: so no, we cant leave such a satguru who has done such a blessing upon us
Preeto: bhoolay marag jinay bathaaiaa
Preeto: aysaa gur vadbhaagee paaiaa
Preeto: the lost one, who was put on the right path (by the guru)
Preeto: such a guru only the greatly blessed find.
Penji: jee
Penji: very true
Penji: who takes us from the dark towards the light
Preeto: sabh ako dhan dhan dhan gur soi
Preeto: all say "blessed blessed blessed " is such a guru
Preeto: and baba ji said those who say DHAN DHAN become DHAN DHAN
Penji: dhan dhan babaji pita jee all the sants bhagats bramgyanis of all ages
Penji: past present and future
Penji: dandauth bandhna jee to all
Preeto: dhan dhan param jyot pooran prakash dhan dhan satparbrahm pita parmesar ji
Preeto: ik oankaar satnaam satgurparsaad
Preeto: ik oankaar satnaam satgurparsaad
Preeto: ik oankaar satnaam satgurparsaad
Penji: ik oankaar satnaam satgurparsaad
Preeto: dear satnaam satguru satsangat satparbrahma pita paramesar ji
Preeto: please bless us with good thoughts and gurus wisdom
Preeto: please forgive us all of our mistakes
Preeto: we always forget you
Penji: please bless us jee with sat budhi at all times jee
Preeto: but please dont forget us
Preeto: visar nahee datar apanaa naam deho
Penji: please dont forget us even though we forget you jee
Preeto: gun gavaa din raat nanak chao eho.
Preeto: may we sing your praises and naam day and night.
Preeto: thankyou penji
Preeto: God bless you always
Preeto: satnaam ji
Penji: god bless you more paji
Preeto: dandauth bandhna ji
Penji: thank you for your time jee
Penji: dandauth bandhna jee to you and all
Penji: satnaam jee sada sada satnaam jee
Preeto: thank you for this sangat
Preeto: felt alot of blessings.
Penji: all is gurkirpa
Preeto: even now on top of the head
Preeto: amrit
Preeto: which we pray all goes to you
Penji: wow
Preeto: keep us under the dust of your feet.
Penji: may it go all to you paji
Penji: you are dhan dhan jee
Preeto: :)
Penji: your entire kul is dhan dhan
Penji: :)
Preeto: bye
Penji: bye
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