SATNAAM
Preeto: Satnaam ji, remember to do your simran!
R Penji: :(
that we do very rare
Preeto: you're on holiday now so what's the problem?
R Penji: laziness and stubborn stupid mind
Preeto: but you're not lazy when it comes to doing other work, nor are you stupid when it comes to studying, so why the problem when it comes to simran?
R Penji: no words :(
Preeto: that's what we want you to think about
what is blocking you?
really blocking you inside
rather than just saying lazy and stupid
what is the real reason
R Penji: ji
we dont know the reason
Preeto: you dont feel any thirst for it
R Penji: ji we dont feel thirst
to be true
Preeto: that's right
because if we are thirsty we get a drink right away
but if we are already full, then we dont eat anything even from a full plate of food infront of us
so you must be full of something
R Penji: kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, ahankaar
we full of bad deeds
Preeto: and go behind them, why are you full of them? Think about your desires,
ask yourself what do you want in life?
R Penji: dont know what we want
Preeto: yes you do
you have very strong and determined wants
R Penji: ya they are many but not a particular
Preeto: your biggest want is get out of the life you are in
so studying is a way out
R Penji: ya thats true
Preeto: your next biggest want is not to upset your parents or your brother - so FEAR runs you as well
R Penji: but we have one more strong desire which is getting more strong as time passes
we found that we cant sit and do simran
like we get irritation sometimes when we force ourself to do simran
becoz it dont want to
Preeto: that's right
you dont enjoy doing simran anymore
R Penji: if we trying and trying failing and failing to concentrate
Preeto: that's why you dont have any enthusiasm to do it
R Penji: yes veer ji
aap ji know what
guru ji stopped talking to us
becoz we dont do simran
from 2 months
they havent talked to us
Preeto: really its the other way around
you have stopped talking to the guru
R Penji: they told us dont talk until and unless you do a lot of simran
Preeto: that's the outer guru
we are talking about the inner guru
you have stopped talking to your own innner guru, pita ji, in your heart
R Penji: but outer guru ji is upset with us
how to talk to inner guru ji
Preeto: there is only one guru
same guru inside you is outside in Dassan Dass ji
so he is telling you to talk to him inside you, not the outside
R Penji: ji
Preeto: everyday we stand infront of guru ji's picture
and we do ardas with joined hands
and we say satguru ji we want to know you on the inside
please forgive us for all our mistakes,
please dont forget about us - mohi na visaro je ma junn tera
without you satguru ji, we just fade away and die
we dont want to go back into maya
but we dont know how to come back
please forgive us
for we are full of mistakes, full of five thieves, chase after desires, ungrateful great offender of our guru and it weighs on our head
please bless us with naam, seva and bandagi
please you come and do your own simran, because if "I" do it "I" cant concentrate
please you come into this heart guru ji, and come into all the chakras and come into our rom-rom
please keep us as the lowest
keep us washing everyones feet
R Penji: you know what veer ji, I have no patience
Preeto: yes, because mind is running all over the place
R Penji: if we sit silently our mind says get up its enough now
like frustration
Preeto: yes
so you have to accept you are at rock bottom (and we have hit rock bottom so many times!)
and start again
one step at a time
one ardas at a time
one day at a time
R Penji: means one ardas?
Preeto: means do ardas now
from your heart
talk to satnaam satguru inside
accept your mistakes
ask for forgiveness, naam, seva and bandagi
that all
mohi na visaro ji ma junn tera – please don't forget about me, I am your slave.
R Penji: ji veer ji
aap ji know what sometimes we feel like crying becoz we cant do simran with concentration
Preeto: yes, soul cries when mind doesnt listen and makes it into a prisoner
Preeto: just learn to relax
doesnt matter if you cant get up early, or cant sit for very long, just do ardas and relax and do as much simran as you can. Even if that is only 5 minutes to start with, that's good first step, then build up every day. It will start to make you feel positive about yourself. Then when you feel good about yourself, you will be able to get into a good routine. Just keep talking to Sat Naam Sat Guru ji inside your heart all day
long, otherwise you are the one who has forgotten your guru.
Remember that your Guru never forgets you.
R Penji: ya true
Preeto: guru has promised God to ferry across your soul.
Only we break our promises to our Guru.
R Penji: ji
ya true :(
Preeto: so you cant drown in maya
because guru inside wont let you
but you can sink in maya and suffer in Maya until you pray for help and ask to get out of it
R Penji: ji veer ji
Preeto: thats the blessing of satguru to us
he wont let us drown
but we will go up and down until we put into practise what they have asked us to do.
We need to get a good daily discipline and give up desires and that only happens when we get fed up with maya
R Penji: ji veer ji
Preeto: but you are not fed up yet
when you are young you have many things to chase and do
so the path is longer
R Penji: ya
Preeto: it has to come from inside you when you really want to surrender to naam and give up the maya chase
might be in another 10 yrs
might be when you are old and grey
might be tomorrow
R Penji: ya
Preeto: but no one else can make you surrender
guru can open the inner door
but you have to walk through it
when you choose to do that is when you turn your back to maya's door
see the thing your mind doesnt understand is
that everything you are fighting to achieve in the world
only drains and exhausts you – look how your health deteriorated during the last year of intensive studying.
R Penji: ya
Preeto: but still you carry on fighting, hoping and wishing
because that is what everyone else around you is doing
and fear of failing wont let you rest
R Penji: ya true!
but what the mind doesn't understand
is that if you surrender to Sat Naam Sat Guru, He takes care of everything.
You still study and do exams and get a job and have a family
but without having to fight inside
without having to fear
and your whole life goes smoothly
it is much easier way when you let Him look after you
but that requires Trust in your guru
but no one around you is following this inner path of trust and devotion , so you don't follow it either no matter how much wisdom and blessings you have got from SatGuru ji.
R Penji: ya we are lacking in trust
Preeto: baba ji said once to us "the one who runs you, I run him"
dont think satguru's words are nothing
even God does what his Sat Guru humbly asks
R Penji: ji veer ji
Preeto: and you have that power and grace available to you
you have diamonds but chase after coal
this is how you have to persuade your own mind
the battle is inside you
to throw out maya, and say my satguru is higher
even if i am poor, a failure and useless, even then I dont want anything from maya, just dust of my Guru's feet
that is how you beat maya inside
and do you see anyone in the sangat who is poor and out on the street or a failure?
R Penji: no
Preeto: because satnaam just wants to see your love
and he takes care of you
he is your real parent
he is the dad inside your dad
the mum inside your mum
the guru inside your guru
the god inside you
R Penji: ji
Preeto: gobind bhau bhaga ka bhukka
god is hungry for your love
and baba ji says
what does it cost you to love?
not a penny
to love is free
R Penji: but how that loves comes?
Preeto: in service to others without expecting anything in return,
love others
water plants with love
help poor with love
play with kids with love
cook for others with love
forget about yourself
R Penji: why dont we feel do much attraction love towards guru god that we feel when we are in love or attraction with a boy or a girl
Preeto: because that is your age and moh is strong and kaam as well and you have to live out your karma, but that that "love" isn't really love, because it is selfish
because you WANT the other for your own happiness
R Penji: true!
Preeto: this love is harder to earn, so is called true love, Divine Love, - PREM
you have to live for others with no selfishness
and then your heart blooms one day
God bless you
danduth bandhna ji
R Penji: thankyou veer ji
dandauth bandhna ji
now we will bring copy and pen and will write this divine wisdom on a copy so that we dont forget :)
Sat Naam
Ik Onkaar SatNaam GurParssad.
J:
satnaam ji
Preeto:
satnaam ji - we were thnking of you as we didnt see you in the sangat and hadn;t heard from you for a while
glad you are still here!!
J:
thank you satnaam ji
we only can get uplifted if you think of us
Preeto:
God-Guru Bless you always
maya takes us down, naam lifts us up
J:
we need to stay in humility under the sangats feet
Preeto:
so how r u
J:
not the best today, only can improve
few days back we in good stable position
felt like doing simran all day
Preeto:
yes keep doing ardas all day
get back into good daily discipline, that is the key
give up thinking about other stuff - desires, etc
focus on just doing bhagti and work
and trust SatGuru will take care of everything else
have to do bhagti like an athlete
put everything else in your life that is unfulfilled on hold
we just tell ourself as well,
for next 6 months we are focusing on bhagti
so mind whatever you are wanting us to do will have to wait!!
Seems to cool the mind down for a while at least.
J:
this is what sangat does - helps us, motivates us and throught the true guru gives us the right gian at the right time
so thanks again ji
Preeto:
we are all going thru the same maya
just when we find a way thru we share it with you
you know the other things that helps
is too think what would you be doing if the doctor told you you had only 6 months to live
J:
its brilliant, everything used to be secret, when we share, sometimes it helps people who are going through the same condition
like we went a little bit of anger, frustration at work because we dont get our way then it was so hot.... its funny mind likes to get his way all the time.
Preeto:
yes,
always do little ardas when you realise your mistake
then also before doing a task, just do little ardas, for satguru ji to come and do it
or change your attitude that you are doing it for satguru
that is how we overcame our anger and inner furstrations, change attitude of every little task in the day, everyday
takes time
J:
the other day we got a spark that when we say haumai nahii tuhi tuhi
to imagine and contemplate at the same time that it doesnt matter what I wants, just let us do what YOU want satnaam
feels so grounded
Preeto:
yes,
what do you want anyway?
what is the stuff that comes up inside you?
its good to write it all down
think about it
fix what you can
let go of what s out of your hands
stay calm
J:
hanji
Preeto:
pray to satguru
there's no harm getting married
or having a business
or getting a bigger house, car etc
getting rid of desires doesn't mean
we give up all that and live in a forest
J:
its all part of life,yes
Preeto:
just means we give up the desire for it inside
J:
its true
Preeto:
and then not having it cant topple us
and wanting it cant drive us crazy chasing after it
when our simran goes down, desires come up, ego starts chasing or complaining
and we cant get rid of that weight on our head
in th end we just sent the email "some thoughts", like a confession
and realised next day with gurus kirpa
that is was just ego crying again
ego cries a lot when it knows its going to die
as we try not to listen to it anymore
so it tries harder to remind us of all the things we wanted to do etc
but we have to remind ourself satguru is greater
after sending the email the weight from the last 2 months lifted
otherwise we were struggling with those thoughts every day
as our amritvela got messed up due to baby and wife new routine
and we went back to old habits -tv, junk food, late nights, no discipline, mind all over the place etc
then Baba ji told us on the phone as well, that WE CANNOT MISS A SINGLE DAY ..naga nahee paunaa
and WE CANNOT LET A SINGLE DESIRE COME IN - koee mung na rakhee
J:
just highlights what mind is capable of
Preeto:
hell mind is sitting right inside us
just waiting underneath the surface to rise up at anytime
that is why Pritam Anand ji always says for us to keep ego under our heels
the key is meditation
to take that time out every morning and evening
and see what storm has come up
and to sit back
do satnaam
and take a break from being tossed around by the storm
if we dont take the time to break out from those thoughts
then we start really believing those thoughts and resulting emotions get stronger
and even lead to bad actions
J:
its only in meditation we get to see where we are
Preeto:
yes
J:
otherwise in ego we are drowning in maiya
Preeto:
Yes, otherwise we get lost in those thoughts, we become our ego and pride again
lost in the illusion again, believing it is all real, that all these thoughts about "me" and "mine" are the true me
we completely forget again we are the soul
we forget everything SatNaam had brought us in terms of peace and calmness of emotions, even samadhi and spiritual gifts – we forget it all.
Instead, we get so mean we start thinking bad of even our satguru and find all their divine wisdom as being restrictive - not letting ME live
its all ego raising its ugly head
tapping into our unfulfilled desires
to motivate us to step back into maya
and that is your test
maya or naam?
your choice
when we are young or new in bhagti
we always end up going for maya
and we justify it, saying but we need to sort out these worldy things
but really we are just doing it for our excitement and hopes and wishes to come true
but after we have seen so many times we went down that road of maya
and all we got was more headaches
then it gets easier to choose naam
seva and bandagi
Preeto:
till one day the mind/ego will give up
and knmow it cannot corrupt us anymore
J:
we remember when we used read solok mayalla 9 , guru tegh bahadurs baani
and they tell us straight in our face that the world is jhoot and fake like a dream
we couldnt understand it then
but know at times we really feel it
Preeto:
yes baba ji said that we can only understand with gurparsaad
otherwise no one can understand
ego cant believe it is a fake
J:
and this is the truth
the mind cant justify that how can matter be a dream
but this is the complicated play that had been set by akaal purakh ji
although it feels real at the time
once passed we cant bring it back
Preeto:
it only means dream in the sense that like in a dream we think it is real
so ego in this world also thinks its thoughts and dreams, desires and wishes are all real too
its only this aspect that is the illusion, not real.
the actual world around us, your body, your mind, your soul is all 100% real
just our perception of it all is wrong
like if we look through tinted glasses makes everything seem a different shade
ego is the tinted glasses
naam washes our eyes
we can see clearly then
satnaam satguru in everything
we pray, "satguru ji please wash our eyes with amrit
please clean our ears with amrit,
so we can see and hear only you only Truth in everything."
Llike if we are in a cinema
watching the screen, getting lost in the story
we forget who we really are for a couple of hours
but if we look back we will see all was just a projection of light and sound
same inside us
J:
yes
Preeto:
ego and pride are just projecting thoughts into the screen of our mind
which we totally get absorbed into
but when we do simran, which means REMEMBERANCE , we say our real name - SATNAAM and remember we are the soul sitting inside this mind and body
but this story being projected onto our mind is SO STRONG
that mostly we just think we are that STORY and even on our death bed we still believe it and are terrified of dying.
So that is what Gurbani is saying that all this is just a dream
when you remember you are SATNAAM then you see all is REAL all is TRUTH all is GOD.
But, only when we are disciplined in our amritvela 2.5hrs a day and no desires all day long, do we start waking up again
And that is the key thing to work on, to wake up and stay awake
"jag re mun tu jaganhaaraa
o min wake up, you are capable of waking up." - Guru Arjun Dev ji
May SatGuru Ji bless you always.
Dandauth Bandhna.
But he hasn’t quite mastered this himself, he concedes. He gets angry “quite often” with “advisers, secretaries, other people around me when they make some little, little mistake, then sometimes I burst. Oh yes! Anger, and I shout! And some harsh words. But that remains for a few minutes, then it’s finished.”
At 76, he doesn’t have time to allow his rage to linger. He wakes at 3.30 every morning, meditates for four hours, pounds the treadmill, and then uses Buddhist prostrations to relax. He hasn’t watched television for two years, doesn’t read novels or poetry, but stays up to date with Newsweek and Time and is a BBC radio “addict”. He stops work just after three in the afternoon and is tucked up in bed by 7pm.
He wishes he had been more studious and less playful as a young boy, and regrets not learning to swim. His great fear, though, is of flying and of sharks. “Long flights, those I really feared, but now I’m used to them,” he says. “The fear now is that I never learnt to swim so if the plane crashes on water, I would immediately go deep under the sea and be enjoyed by a shark. That I really fear.”
The greatest single thing in life, he says, is the intelligence of human beings. “With the help of human intelligence, we have the ability to develop infinite love and infinite compassion.”
It is what drives his dedication to others, and inspires his favourite prayer from an eighth‑century Indian Buddhist master. “So long as space remains and suffering of sentient beings is there, I will remain to serve,” he recites. “That prayer really gives me inner strength.”
--| Dassan Dass: Satnaam Jee please read responses next to your comments: Always remember GURPARSAAD IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS. Preeto: SatNaam Dassan Dass ji, dandauth bandhna ji so are you saying that the future (our destiny) is already written (by our past deeds that we have to now reap) and cannot be changed ( "there is nothing that a man can do to deviate from his destiny ") unless we do naam ("there is only one divine power of naam that can penetrate through your karmic layers and destroy them "). So based on that does this mean that people (Sants/psychics/astrologers etc) can read our future and tell us what we are going to reap - our destiny? It is hard to speak for psychics and astrologers, buts Sant will tell you what you need to do to make your future. He may not tell you what exactly is going to happen in your future if you don't do what you need to do and what he tells you to do, then your future course will not change. In other words those who follow and earn the words of a Sant can change their future. Following the words of a Sant will bring you the gurparsaad and the gurparsaad will change your destiny, provided you serve the gurparsaad with tunn munn dhan. This is where complete surrender comes in as a divine law, that brings you the gurparsaad as you follow the words of the Sant and start collecting sat karams, the collection of Sat Karams bring you the gurparsaad, or also if you have been collecting the sat karams then you will meet a Sant who will give you the gurparsaad, and when you surrender with tunn munn dhan at the sat charans of the sant then you will be blessed with the gurparsaad and then serving the gurparsaad you will break all your karmic layers as naam goes in to your hirda, then the shackles of maya will be broken, and when you win over the maya completely and merge in sat paar braham pita parmesar then the effect of all the previous karma will be deleted, whatsoever it may be and you will achieve jivan mukti. This is the most critical point in bandgi. But you have aid in the past that our future can be changed by doing good deeds right now, so we start reaping good in future, and doing naam to reduce any bad karma that was destined for us. But yes at the same time when you are focusig on your truthful deeds and doing satnaam simran being blessed with gurparsaad, then yes your future will become better, but still you will be facing the effect of some of your previous karma, though the effect of the previous krma may be reduced, but can't be eliminated altogether until you achieve jivan mukti. There is always a chance to fall back until you achieve jivan mukti. This is what have happened to many people who came in the Satnaam Sangat, they were blessed with the gurparsaad, they could not surrender and serve the satguru as they were supposed to do, some of them went into slandering and others just left due to tests of maya and their own illusions, We always thought the future is NOT set in stone, so when people get glimpses of the future, it is only showing what COULD happen if we carry on as we are. So we do have some control over what happens next. Otherwise most of the world does not have Naam, but we can see depending on a persons actions they get accordingly, and people believe that and make efforts to get a better life, improve etc. This amounts to a struggle with maya and nothing else, those who understand the game of maya try to be truthful, but they are still being ruled by maya and are bound to committ untruthful deeds for which they will have to bear, though their future may become better with more and more truthful deeds. That is why for a normal person it is a never ending process, short lived happiness, pains, sorrows, sufferings, success and failure all happen according to the destiny. In short you are the master of your own destiny. The future is carved according to your own deeds. At the same time winning over maya, winning over panj doots and desires is beyond the capability of your own efforts, you can do efforts and become better and better, but you can't be granted freedom from the slavery of maya until you achieve the gurparsaad of jivan mukti. So gurparsaad is the key to success and gurparsaad is achieved by complete surrender, which means death of haumai and winning over maya. Longer hours of simran will bring your mind under control, your hirda will go in to peace, the panj doots will be diluted, desires will be diluted, and you will continue to move on towards jivan mukti, this will also bring in you the strength and power to surrender yourself, and as you continue to surrender with devotion love and trust, you will continue to march on towards complete surrender, when you cross the fine line then maya will be defeated and you will merge in the infinite, when your identity is lost, then the infinite divine power will take over you and will merge you in itself, that is what is called jivan mukti. Only then your effect of your karma will be completely deleted, your own wisdom will be finished, and you will get only divine wisdom, which will make all your deeds truthful and under puran hukam, until this happens your five gyan indrey and five karm indrey will still be under the rule of maya. But when you merge in sat then you become sat that is why all your deeds are in hukam – means under only divine wisdom. Lack of surrender and lack of following satguru's words is the main reason for the ups and downs in the bandgi. COMPLETE SURRENDER IS THE ONLY SECRET OF ACHIEVING THE GURPARSAAD OF JIVAN MUKTI. IT IS SO SIMPLE AND EASY. Dassan Dass Thanks |
