Ik Onkaar SatNaam GurParssad.
J:
satnaam ji
Preeto:
satnaam ji - we were thnking of you as we didnt see you in the sangat and hadn;t heard from you for a while
glad you are still here!!
J:
thank you satnaam ji
we only can get uplifted if you think of us
Preeto:
God-Guru Bless you always
maya takes us down, naam lifts us up
J:
we need to stay in humility under the sangats feet
Preeto:
so how r u
J:
not the best today, only can improve
few days back we in good stable position
felt like doing simran all day
Preeto:
yes keep doing ardas all day
get back into good daily discipline, that is the key
give up thinking about other stuff - desires, etc
focus on just doing bhagti and work
and trust SatGuru will take care of everything else
have to do bhagti like an athlete
put everything else in your life that is unfulfilled on hold
we just tell ourself as well,
for next 6 months we are focusing on bhagti
so mind whatever you are wanting us to do will have to wait!!
Seems to cool the mind down for a while at least.
J:
this is what sangat does - helps us, motivates us and throught the true guru gives us the right gian at the right time
so thanks again ji
Preeto:
we are all going thru the same maya
just when we find a way thru we share it with you
you know the other things that helps
is too think what would you be doing if the doctor told you you had only 6 months to live
J:
its brilliant, everything used to be secret, when we share, sometimes it helps people who are going through the same condition
like we went a little bit of anger, frustration at work because we dont get our way then it was so hot.... its funny mind likes to get his way all the time.
Preeto:
yes,
always do little ardas when you realise your mistake
then also before doing a task, just do little ardas, for satguru ji to come and do it
or change your attitude that you are doing it for satguru
that is how we overcame our anger and inner furstrations, change attitude of every little task in the day, everyday
takes time
J:
the other day we got a spark that when we say haumai nahii tuhi tuhi
to imagine and contemplate at the same time that it doesnt matter what I wants, just let us do what YOU want satnaam
feels so grounded
Preeto:
yes,
what do you want anyway?
what is the stuff that comes up inside you?
its good to write it all down
think about it
fix what you can
let go of what s out of your hands
stay calm
J:
hanji
Preeto:
pray to satguru
there's no harm getting married
or having a business
or getting a bigger house, car etc
getting rid of desires doesn't mean
we give up all that and live in a forest
J:
its all part of life,yes
Preeto:
just means we give up the desire for it inside
J:
its true
Preeto:
and then not having it cant topple us
and wanting it cant drive us crazy chasing after it
when our simran goes down, desires come up, ego starts chasing or complaining
and we cant get rid of that weight on our head
in th end we just sent the email "some thoughts", like a confession
and realised next day with gurus kirpa
that is was just ego crying again
ego cries a lot when it knows its going to die
as we try not to listen to it anymore
so it tries harder to remind us of all the things we wanted to do etc
but we have to remind ourself satguru is greater
after sending the email the weight from the last 2 months lifted
otherwise we were struggling with those thoughts every day
as our amritvela got messed up due to baby and wife new routine
and we went back to old habits -tv, junk food, late nights, no discipline, mind all over the place etc
then Baba ji told us on the phone as well, that WE CANNOT MISS A SINGLE DAY ..naga nahee paunaa
and WE CANNOT LET A SINGLE DESIRE COME IN - koee mung na rakhee
J:
just highlights what mind is capable of
Preeto:
hell mind is sitting right inside us
just waiting underneath the surface to rise up at anytime
that is why Pritam Anand ji always says for us to keep ego under our heels
the key is meditation
to take that time out every morning and evening
and see what storm has come up
and to sit back
do satnaam
and take a break from being tossed around by the storm
if we dont take the time to break out from those thoughts
then we start really believing those thoughts and resulting emotions get stronger
and even lead to bad actions
J:
its only in meditation we get to see where we are
Preeto:
yes
J:
otherwise in ego we are drowning in maiya
Preeto:
Yes, otherwise we get lost in those thoughts, we become our ego and pride again
lost in the illusion again, believing it is all real, that all these thoughts about "me" and "mine" are the true me
we completely forget again we are the soul
we forget everything SatNaam had brought us in terms of peace and calmness of emotions, even samadhi and spiritual gifts – we forget it all.
Instead, we get so mean we start thinking bad of even our satguru and find all their divine wisdom as being restrictive - not letting ME live
its all ego raising its ugly head
tapping into our unfulfilled desires
to motivate us to step back into maya
and that is your test
maya or naam?
your choice
when we are young or new in bhagti
we always end up going for maya
and we justify it, saying but we need to sort out these worldy things
but really we are just doing it for our excitement and hopes and wishes to come true
but after we have seen so many times we went down that road of maya
and all we got was more headaches
then it gets easier to choose naam
seva and bandagi
Preeto:
till one day the mind/ego will give up
and knmow it cannot corrupt us anymore
J:
we remember when we used read solok mayalla 9 , guru tegh bahadurs baani
and they tell us straight in our face that the world is jhoot and fake like a dream
we couldnt understand it then
but know at times we really feel it
Preeto:
yes baba ji said that we can only understand with gurparsaad
otherwise no one can understand
ego cant believe it is a fake
J:
and this is the truth
the mind cant justify that how can matter be a dream
but this is the complicated play that had been set by akaal purakh ji
although it feels real at the time
once passed we cant bring it back
Preeto:
it only means dream in the sense that like in a dream we think it is real
so ego in this world also thinks its thoughts and dreams, desires and wishes are all real too
its only this aspect that is the illusion, not real.
the actual world around us, your body, your mind, your soul is all 100% real
just our perception of it all is wrong
like if we look through tinted glasses makes everything seem a different shade
ego is the tinted glasses
naam washes our eyes
we can see clearly then
satnaam satguru in everything
we pray, "satguru ji please wash our eyes with amrit
please clean our ears with amrit,
so we can see and hear only you only Truth in everything."
Llike if we are in a cinema
watching the screen, getting lost in the story
we forget who we really are for a couple of hours
but if we look back we will see all was just a projection of light and sound
same inside us
J:
yes
Preeto:
ego and pride are just projecting thoughts into the screen of our mind
which we totally get absorbed into
but when we do simran, which means REMEMBERANCE , we say our real name - SATNAAM and remember we are the soul sitting inside this mind and body
but this story being projected onto our mind is SO STRONG
that mostly we just think we are that STORY and even on our death bed we still believe it and are terrified of dying.
So that is what Gurbani is saying that all this is just a dream
when you remember you are SATNAAM then you see all is REAL all is TRUTH all is GOD.
But, only when we are disciplined in our amritvela 2.5hrs a day and no desires all day long, do we start waking up again
And that is the key thing to work on, to wake up and stay awake
"jag re mun tu jaganhaaraa
o min wake up, you are capable of waking up." - Guru Arjun Dev ji
May SatGuru Ji bless you always.
Dandauth Bandhna.
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