What happens to the ones worshipping devi-devtas and so on?

QN:

DANDAUTH BANDNA to AKAAL PURAKH ji and all the sadh sangat mahapurkh jee,
Satnaam veer harjit jee,
bhaji as you have written that the devi-devtas are still not merged with SAT and their bhagti is not complete, so can we infer from this that the people, in India there are crores of them who worship them can't achieve jivan mukti by worshipping them plus one more que. that we have been reading and listening for many years that the devi-devtas have to take birth again to complete their bhagti so by now isn't it that many of them might have born and completed their bhagti. Also their are a lot of bhagats who have done bhagti but not completed it so the number of devi-devtas,could it have increased from 33 crores to more if they are still to take birth or less if they have merged with AKAALPURAKH ji.
plz. clear these doubts jee.
beant bhullaan di maafi deni jee, dhanvaaad jee.
satnaam jee.

 

REPLY:

 

Sat Naam Veer Ji, Dandauth Bandhna ji,

 

everything we have shared with you is what we have leanred from the experiences of the Sants

and Gurbani around us.  But as for ourself we have not seen all these realms or beings.

We have seen glimpses of some of the things we have written, but the whole story only God and Guru knows.

And Dassan Dass Ji can hopefully correct or add further details.

 

All we would say is not to get too technical or bogged down in detail of exactly 330 Million, and sure those souls are on a journey too.  Even Baba Ji said that many "Sants" in Sikhism  are actually operating at the level of devi-devtas.  They may be called Sant and they may have defeated maya, but they havent defeated HAUMAI, which includes pride of relgion and of seeking out recognition and of also fulfilling peoples desires, rather than teaching people to go beyond desires and into 100% truthful living and truthful deeds and meditating on the Truth.  The people who are worshipping Devi-Devtas go their to get their desirs fulfilled.  Baba ji has taught us what Gurbani teaches us and that is DESIRES LEAD US INTO MAYA'S WEB.   Unfortunately, that is what is happening at Gurdwaras now too.  Baba Ji said that instead of sikhs going to their Guru and giving up their desires, they do the opposite and start praying to the guru to fulfill their desires.  They bring their guru into Maya, rather than letting the diamond words lift us out of Maya.   It is true that a Sant-Guru has the power to fulfill our desires and by going to them we find that our life and needs are taken care of.  But that is actually a side effect of our surrendering at their lotus feet, when we give our head at their feet and just gor for earning their divine words, then God-Guru takes care of us and everything we need - satgur tumaray kaaj savaaray.   But most people do the opposite, they are not interested in loving god and surrendering anything, they just want to get desires fulfilled by any means they can.  so one day they go to hindu mandir and pray to devi-devta, next day they go to a "sant" and get a shabad to recite for x amount of days, after that they go to a pundit to tell them their future and who has cursed them so their desires dont come true.   And they spend their whole life in this going from door to door.    Baba Ji said other people are always bargaingin with God.  They say we will do an Akhand Paat if so and so comes right for us.  Or we will walk barefoot up the mountain to get to Hemkund if our illness goes and so on.  Baba Ji says they are bargaingin with God, making business deals.

So as that is what they are sowing that is what the Universe/god keeps giving back to them.  They stay bargaining with God all of their life and never go beyond that to Truth consciousness.

 

But you are right, the ones worshipping devi-devtas and Brahma Shiva & Vishnu are still on their journey through the heavens.  They may not even know that Dargah / Baykunt exists as that is not in their day to day teachings.

We know in our sangat that Namjeevan ji often felt Shiva was around her - harrassing her.  Baba ji told her not to worry about Shiva, that he often came after the ones with Naam because he wanted them to follow him.   Even Dassan Dass ji said once that Vishnnu ji danced and tried to tempt him into becomgin his disciple, but Dassan Dass Ji didnt bow to him as that would have been accepting him as Guru.  When Dassan Dass ji knew that SatGuru mera Poora - my SatGuru is Perfect.   Even gurbani says that Shiva is searching for the feet of the BrahamGiani.

 

Once Dassan Dass ji had an email from a very humble and sincere hindu lady who had spent her whole life worshipping Vishnu Ji.

But recently she had started getting thoughts that someone must have created Vishnu , Shiva and Brahma too.

She started thinking there must be ONE SUPREME BEING, HIGHEST OF THE HIGH.

And those thoughts are actually coming to her from god within her who is pleased with her humbleness and good deeds.

That in turn led her to Dassan Dass Ji who told her the Truth.

 

So we are all souls on a journey and no relgious books or path tells anyone to do bad deeds, they all tell us to do good deeds.

When the good deeds accumulate then the time will come when we get the thoughts to find the Sant-Guru for us, then we are blessed with the GurParsaad of Naam and the final part of our journey to Truth Consciousness begins.

 

Once again each soul is on its own journey and is at its own part of the journey, we cant force anyone to believe in what we believe. but we can pray for everyone - sarbatt da bhalla, so the GurParsaad blesses everyone.

 

Dust of your feet

 

Harjit