Monday, 10 August 2009

Re: [Truth] Forgive ji Inquisitive mind

Sat naam ji, Dandauth bandhna ji
 
we too were very inquistive and and prayed for a few years to be able to meet such blessed souls,
"gurdev sangat prabh meyl kar kirpa, hum moor papee jit laag taraa".
O Lord may I meet the Divine Guru, so that a fool and sinner like me can be ferried across.
 
We were blessed in 2003/2004 to meet baba ji and dassan dass ji.
 
Everything we learned from them we have put onthe website as close to their own words as possible ji.
 
The greatest thing we can say is that even after meeting them we still faced so many tests of maya on returning.
Which means there are no real shortcuts to bhagti.  We receive theblessings of the Sants with which we have to face our own thieves.
 
There is so much slander written on the internet about baba ji, dassan dass ji and even myself and this sangat by people who have never met us, but have just heard gossip and other things.   That is also a test for you to get through as it was for me, wether you believe what the slanderers say or believe what your heart is telling you.
 
We personally have made many mistakes, we were coming from the hardliner religious background and even though our heart was telling us baba ji and dassan ji were the ones we had been praying to god for so long to meet, but because their truthful teachings didnt fit into my religious world view and because we were feeling pressure from our parents and religious society, we made the biggest mistake and beleived the slanderers and became a slanderer.  After which we cried for days, because our soul knew we had done a terrible thing.  Then after some time we went back to Dassan dass ji to gain forgiveness, we decided that we would never listen to other people or our parents or our mind again, we would always keep Dassan Dass ji's words highest of the high in our mind and only do those deeds that this kind soul guided us to do.  And Dassan Dass ji did not scold us, they just asked us to think that if God is everywhere in every heart, then if we slander even one person, then who are we slandering?
And we realised that we are slandering God, the very God our soul is crying to reach, we are slandering Him by judging others especially the heart in which HE has come to answer our prayers.
 
So Dassan Dass ji recommended to us to go in person to see Baba ji and gain forgiveness. So with His blessings we did so.
And on meeting them all our doubts, confusions, questions and wrong beliefs due to what society had said disappeared. We found Baba ji was so kind He forgave us," O dont worry, people who dont know us dont know what they are saying."
 
And Baba ji also told us that when we go into Samadhi and into the Divine Light, then that Light will take the shape of Baba Ji to show us that HE is the Truth and this Naam - Sat Naam is not a fraud.   
 
And over the years the more we have surrendered we have been blessed with Darshan of Baba Ji and Dassan Dass ji in our dreams and sometimes in our simran.
 
Even in India , Deepa ji had never met Baba ji and told me in His simran he felt great light and had darshan of a great soul, he described the image and we told him that was Baba ji.
 
So on this path try and take the positive lessons and go within , pray to God-guru ji for their Darshan so you may truly know them heart-to-heart.
 
Jo tho prem khelan ka chaao, sir dhar talee ghalee meree aao.
It marag paair dareejay, sir deeja khaan na keeja.
 
If you want to play the game of love, then come to me with your head on the palm of your hand.
Stepping on this path, give your head and pay no attention to public opinion.
 
Also Baba ji told us that each of us have our own circle of Karma, meaning we have to deal with the people and circumstances around us.  And within this Karma circle we have to defeat our five thieves and maya.  So we should focus on doing that and not to be concerned with Baba Ji's karma circle - the people and the circumstances around Him.  so after that day we no longer question or want to know what Baba ji is doing or what is happening or why they do anything.  all we know is when we do speak to baba ji or get and email from Dassan Dass ji on this forum, they are giving us the medicine WE NEED in order to beat our five thieves.  Like when we go to see the Doctor, we dont need to know the Doctors lifestory, we just need to take the medicine he gives us and to use it in our life.
 
So on this path we tend to stick to spiritual life and how to progress and not to get into what is happening in our families, work, relgious socity etc -- because we spend enough time in all of that and talking about that with non-spiritual people anyway.
 
Dust of your feet
 
Harjit 
2009/8/10 ujagar singh <jaggia5@yahoo.com>
 

SATNAAM SATNAAM SATNAAM JI.
SAT  SAT  SAT  SAT  SATNAAM JI.
 
Dandaut bandana parwaan kerna ji.
 
The info contained in the links indicated was already seen by me on the website ji. But since the info on my queries was not found there, I had made the query and troubled you ji. However, again I have traversed thru pages under these links as it is anyway very interesting jewels of wisdom there, and very absorbing too ji. On a closer look once again now, I could not find any clues to the info requested ji.
 
I am sorry, its all right ji. Perhaps I am unnecessarily inquisitive ji. Main moorakh deeyan galteeyan maaf ker dena ji. 
 
Sadh janaan ka keeda,
Ujagar Singh

--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Harjit <satsatsat@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Harjit <satsatsat@gmail.com>
Subject: [Truth] Inquisitive mind - about Baba ji
To: "ujagar singh" <jaggia5@yahoo.com>
Cc: satnaam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 10 August, 2009, 4:04 PM
 
Sat Naam Ji - Dandauth Bandhna Ji
 
With Guru ji's Kirpa we have uploaded whatever Baba Ji and Dassan Dass Ji have shared with us about their incredible journeys so far:
 
About Baba Ji
 
Baba ji and Dassan Dass Ji are the spiritual names used.  They have left attachment to worldly names, families, jobs, status and whatever else a normal person uses to identify themselves with.
 
Ko-ee nao na janaay mera ...May no-one know my name.
 
Baba Ji also says "I have no name."
 
Which is very deep, because Baba ji explained to us that people think when he says "I" it is ego, but his "I" is actually God speaking.   This is what BAba ji wants all of us to become - Sat Roop - when each part of our body becomes SAT SAT SAT and complete divnie Light - the Nirgun appearing in Sargun as happened to Dassan Dass Ji.   Then there is no ego, no name, no identity, just the Eternal Truth.
 
Dust of your feet
 
Harjit
 
 
2009/8/10 ujagar singh <jaggia5@yahoo. com>
SATNAAM  SATNAAM SATNAAM JI.
SAT  SAT  SAT  SAT   SATNAAM JI.
 
Dandaut Bandana ji.
 
Pyare Harjit Ji,
 
Sometimes you are referring to Baba ji in your emails (and of course to Dassandas ji). I just wanted to know more about Baba ji. Would you mind enlightening me on this like what was his name, where born, what mahatam of his life etc. Just to know more about him ji. This occurred to my mind actually a few days ago, and I had an instant desire to learn more about him. The website does not give much detail.
 
I think God has been very bountiful to Punjab where such exalted souls took birth !
 
With love and regards,
Ujagar Singh



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