Monday 28 April 2014

Relationship...difference between moh and love

Satnaam

Reply to penji who said she is in moh with someone in sangat.

Reply:

Satnaam  penji,  maharaj ji says "love is god, when two people fall in love that love is god on earth, for a moment of love i would give up a lifetime of keeping family happy by not following through with it."

A young lady came to sangat last year and she wanted to marry her boyfriend of four years, but wrong caste so parents were against it.  Thats when baba jinsaid the abovd about love to her.   He only asked her, "do you love him, does he love you?" And she said yes, then baba ji said go for love, he would rather have a moment of love than a lifetime of formality loveless marriage.

So ask yourself do you love him, does he love you, are you prepared to follow through even if its against parents and society?

You have to watch out for moh and dreams/desires. Which is not easy to do at all.  So you feel love, which is great, which is heart, which is god in you. But then mind comes in...i want this person, i want to spend rest of my life with them, i want to be happy like this forever, i cant let them get away, i cant lose them

...so attachment has two sides...a)wants to grab thrm., keep them and control them. B) fears losing them, fears how will i live without them

That part is moh

Not the actual relationship.

And then if it gets sexual, intimate then kaam is coming in as well. Because if your not married then all kinds of issues start playing in the mind...is thia right, am i bad, should i be doing this, shoukdnt i, have to meet in secret, have to have double life, fear of being caught.....

So we get caught in lies as well,we are no longer same inside as out.

So the relationship, love, friendship part is fine. Do simran together with that feeling of love its great.  But just dont put hopes and wishes and desires, fears, worries, lies, double life into it. Thats the only part to watch out for.

Ee went thru similar thing before we were married, she was spiritual, we had lots of psuchic things happening between us, so we thought we are made for wach other.  We remeber we sat with her and did simran, sat opposite each other hands pointing and touching at finger tips..she used to do kubdalini yoga , so was something she new partners can do.  We had so much pure love for her, plus our bhagti was really high at the time from seva of our sant and gurdwara sangat, we felt so much love for her whilst doing simran and our kundalini energy wss rising and we felt we were wrapping her up in so much divine love.

So that part was pure,

Baba ji says

Preet leads to prem leads to parbraham

Preet is a little love
It ecpands and to big love..prem

And with satnaam it expands into parbraham

So love part is god part in all of us and is worth sacrificng mind and society for.  

But without gian and winning over maya and thieves, love diamond gets covered in shit of maya.

So that is why dasssan dass ji is saying to youn peoole, friendship is fine , but not moh and kaam, beat maya first.

We didnt beat maya, we didnt realise how it took over, turned love into big mess inside us..lost our peace, lost the girl, lost god as well.

So if you love each other, get married, if u cant get married then just keep it pure as loving friends and kill moh maya.

God bless you, we dont know ur situation, just talking alot about our experiences hoping they may help you not to get burned.

Hau moorakh karay laayaa.

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