Friday, 30 November 2012

Chat with KK - Overcoming MOH - family attachement

SATNAAM


Sharing a divine chat with  KK veer ji who has recently been blessed by Dassan Dass ji with GurParsaadi Naam and has started experiencing Amrit in his amritvela.




KK:
Dandauth bandhna
Preeto Ji


Preeto:
satnaam ji, dandauth bandhn aji


KK:
:)

 very very happy to see you on chat Shri
Preeto Ji


Preeto:
&u too ji, how r u


KK:
i am good .....thanks
Preeto Ji
 feeling excited about the seva

  countless thanks for the same

  :)


Preeto:
thankd for your help,

  there's lots of seva to do!

 mainly of the articles on the website

  if you like typing!


KK:
sure
Preeto Ji......i would be the happiest person to do the same....just because of job and time-constraints....sometimes it becomes a little tough !

 but if i have enough time.....i would be extremely extremely happy to do the same....


Preeto:
yes, same for all of us, so its all a test for us, to make God & guru number 1, sangat #2 and family & everything else #3 ,   that's what Dassan Dass ji taught us from day


KK:
haanji ....satbachan
Preeto Ji.....


Preeto:
but it has to come from inside you

 that you want God and Guru and Sangat to be everything for you, then the tests come because family, world and maya will try hardest to pull you back

  they fear you will leave them

  they dont know when you trsut in god guru and sangat, God takes care of everyone

 does best for everyone.


KK
:
Preeto Ji.....pls always stay in touch with me....i completely agree with you....

 but i will admit right away that i am very much in moh of my family, especially my parents who are away from me at this old age.....my heart sincerely wants to be with them....and take careof them...its not wrong
Preeto Ji.....isnt it ?


Preeto:
out of all the thieves moh is not so bad and not too hard to overcome, 

  because it is close to love

  just when love becomes conditional it is moh

 when ur love is only for your own family then it is moh

 so you have to take the love you have for your own family and expand it out

  so in religion people expand it out to their own religion

  seeing other sikhs as their brothers and sisters

  but you have to expland it out to see the whole world as your family

 so ur parents are old , but so are millions of other old people in the world

  what do you feel for them?


KK:
satbachan
Preeto Ji....but as a normal human being...i can only love my parents to the utmost as they are the ones who took my care, satisfied all my needs and wants, were there for me for in all my dukh and sukh....and still care for me a lot.....still love me as a child......how can i not love them ? i am not saying i dont care for other old ppl or think anything wrong for them....but obviously my love for my own parents would be much much more because i know them !


Preeto:
No one said NOT to love them. But dont love them more than anyone else. It is your illusion they took care of you. Who gave them breath and body and money and house and even gave you asa gift to them? Pls sit in your simran everyday and burn all attachments to your body, and everything else that is attached to your body

 in maya's logic, your mind thinks they took care of you, you need to take care of them.

  all of that is just a burden on your soul

  Truth is that SatNaam is Mother and Father of all and is working through all taking care of all.

  Har jee mata har jee mata har jee pritpalak

 har jee meree sar karay hum har kay balak

  god is my my mother, god is my father, god isthe one who looks after me

  god does everything for me, I am a child of god,.

  -Gurbani.

 your moh has got more intensified because you are far from them, so now you have maybe guilt for leaving them

  they came alon and will go alone

  they were ok before you were ever born

  they will be ok once you've left them

 because Satnaam looks after all as per their destiny

  karma is running everything

  the number of days you were to be with them is the number of days you had with them

  every realtionship is like that

 same with your kids and wife

  only one relationship is true forever

  SAtnaam

  break the moh and you will be free of this burden you are feelnig all the time

  then you will truly love them

  you dont know that true love

 so your mind wants to hold onto what it does know.

  that is your test, your trap, believe in what gurbani is telling you, make god guru gurbani first

 pls do this inner cleanisng every mronig before amritvela http://satnaam.info/how-to-do-naam-simran/--overcoming-the-effect-of-past-lives.html

 ok try doing the inner cleansing and let us kow how you feel.

 Trsut in SatNaam, let go of moh and Trust Satnaam will take care of you bilogical parents better than you can ever imagine.

  Bandagi is trust

  trsut gurbani and satguru, it is the only way to overcome the fears of the mind.


 minutes



KK:
thank u so much
Preeto Ji.....for explaining it so beautifully....al i can say is that i pray to the almighty to give me enough inner strength to break this moh...because it is so intense, i cant explain in words....i feel like crying intensely when i imagine that i may not be with them during their last breath...my heart and soul just dont accept this.....i cant explain how terrible my condition was when last year, my father had an heart operation and was in a v critical stage. doctors said that they cant say anything until the night passes. i cant explain how my every minute ws like hell here in australia nd how desperately i wanted to be with my father. with babaji's kirpa.....my papa was allright after the operation and when i reached india nd went to the hospital....and saw my father fro the first time...his eyes were full of tears and he lovingly pointed towards me and called me to come closer to him.....i can never ever forgot that love which i saw in those tear filled eyes. he just cldnt stop crying after seeing me.


Preeto:
whole world is clinging on to each other

 but death always has its way

  when we know that is the truth

  should we cling on even tighter to people and poessions or learn to let go BEFORE they go?

 sabh jag chalanhaaraa

  whole world is coming and going.

  Now look if you knew true love inside your heart

  if you were one with SatNaam inside you

  and if your dad was too

 there would have been no fear of dying for your dad

  just thanks to God

  there would be no sadness at either of you not seeing each other again

  because you already have merged into the Truth, into the Light, were we are going after death one day with Gurparsaad

guru Amar das ji wrote to his followers, dont cry for me when i'm gone

  because i am going home to Satnaam

  so see it as a joyous reunion

only cry for the ones who wasted their life, for they wont be going home,

  all those tears and sadness are MOH draining you and your father of your lifeforce - amrit - that is why moh is called a terrible thief

look at how moh disturbed yoru mind - took it to hell - just with the thoughts of what was happening to your father.

  instead if you were stable in satnaam, you would have been overflowing with light and love

  and that amrit would be passing to your father to help him as well

so when you have a choice of how you want to be inside your mind - in hell, or in Truth? why do you cling onto the things that only bring you hell?

  The more you cut these entanglements, these bandhans, the more AMRIT you will experience

  the true love you will find inside

the more peace you will also then give to others including your family and parents

  if someone is drowning, what use is it if you cannot swim, but jump into save them? You will drown as well. That is your state you are describing.

Pls recite this shabad everyday, it really is a humble prayer for people who are stuck in moh , its by the poet bhaat kirat praying to his guru ram das ji.

  http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=

ok ji, bye for now, let us know how you get on in a few days time.

  satnaam.

  god bless you, your family, and the whole world.

:
KK:
sure Shri
Preeto Ji.......SATNAAM and dandauth bandhna....many many thanks:)

i accept that i am totally gripped with moh ..... and i also understand that only SATNAAM is my cure......may i do the simran with Shri Dassan Das Ji and aapji's blessings with full commitment and love and trust.

Please convey my gratitude and dandauth bandhna to Shri Dassan Dass Ji :)



 

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