Ik Oankar SatNaam SatGurParsaad.Dandauth Bandhna Ji.Just sharing what happened in Sangat on Friday and a conversation with beloved Tanraj Singh Ji.===Tanraj Singh Ji:We hope all goes well in the Sangat, please let us know of the lessons learnt, the confessions made.
- Become Nothing,
- be humble,
- kill the vices,
- sleep on the Love of Naam,
- let it take you (give in),
- become Gurbani,
- speak Gurbani (Truth),
- Enlighten Others to the Truth (for they are waiting for you)
Hukam will Prevail. Dhan Satnaam Dhan Dhan Satnaam.
Smile Brother for out of Nothing is the True Happiness.
May we (bhagawale) evolve together.
Your Brother and Slave.Harjit reply:
Sat Naam Guru Pyare Ji,
Dandauth Bandhna ji,
with your blessings at Sangat on Friday, Namjeevan ji told some truths to the sangat.
She said she had been speaking to baba ji and baba ji wanted everyone to start taking bhagti seriously. She said that many people have come to sangat in the past and still do for getting desires resolved. But sangat is not about doing reiki or yoga. Sangat is not about get ghosts removed from places of people, sangat is not about socialising, sangat is not about getting our job , or a child or a marriage partner. And comnig to sangat with these wants at Baba ji's door along with the other souls at the sangat was only draining them. By doing Naam the other areas of are life are taken care of. By doing Naam , reiki and Yoga are ignited. so remember that Naam is the highest and what the Sangat is about first and foremost. Namjeevan ji said that if we are not yet ready to surrender at least our daswandh of time and money, then we should just go out in the world and follow our desires or wants and seek out other places and people who are in the business of fullfilling those wants. But if we do come to this sangat then we need to leave our worldy wants and to give our daswandh to our Guru, to Baba ji , upon whom we all depend on and call whenever we need, for our own benefit. But never think of giving back in return to.
Many people in the sangat felt taken aback.
We tried to add that it has taken even us a very long time to get to the stage of giving Daswandh of time and money. Because we found it very difficult to get up early and struggled to concentrate. So that was why we just focused on doing seva of the website and books and fighting five thieves during the daily life, and doing reiki seva brought in compassion, and yoga excercises helped the body. We have just built up gradually and it has worked for us. So if others are finding it difficult to give daswandh of time and money, to just start by doing good deeds whilst doing Naam simran and giving up desires. Because Guru Nanak Dev ji has said without doing good deeds we cannot do worship of god - "bin gun keetay bhagat na hoi." And that only those do simran upon whom God bestows this gift - "se simareh jin aap simrahey." So if we are struggling to do Simran, then at least we should come and touch the feet of those who have been given the gift of doing it - "nanak ta kau lago pai" - Nanak touches their feet. (sukhmani).
Thankyou for all your blessings, we are enjoying singing Sukhmani and just the first Astpadi has filled us with so much love and humility and respect of the Naam and the ones who are blessed with the gift of Naam Simran. And we also have our own tests - someone was attacking us, but we know its a test. So with your blessings we are just focusing on Sukhmani, on simran and giving up desires as much as we can, we feel we are heading in the right direction, but have much filth to clear as well.
How are things with you ji? We mentioned to the sangat about how you have inspired us, prayed for us and given us strength, and that we feel we have woken up again and can face maya and win. We told them about what the stroke suffered by your old master and the lesson to us all of what happens if we take everyones weight by acting as agony aunt and fulfilling their Maya wishes , instead of delivering the Puran Sat - Truth.
Namjeevan ji and others also expressed she would really like to meet you as well.
We can never thank God in you enough for picking us up and still picking us up.
Sukhmani is in praise of souls like you, we are blessed to have your sangat. To have you in our life.
With your blessings we are trying to clean up in order to share the sukhmani on the day course with some of the sangat. We cannot teach them anything but we can all help each other and do sangat and simran together.
Thankyou ji
dust of your feet
Tanraj Singh Ji reply:
Thankyou for this email, We are happy to see that Puran Sat is to be delivered. If we Stray from Puran Sat then we are only building a web of complication.We can claim freindships and have feelings of love for members of the Sangat, but our Lord God loves his children more than we could ever understand. His hukam is to deliver them back to Puran Sat. For millions of years he may have watched the same soul going round and round in circles, waiting for his infinite child to return home. We cannot intervene due to our inequalities, we should accept all Hukam and Issue that Hukam to the World for all to hear.
We prayed for seva continually, to the extent it was heard across the 14 realms, but that was desiring work, even though it is to glorify the Masters Name. We may possess temporary bodies but she would eradicate self and see only him, accept only him, comply to only him. If seva is there, then he will give it to us. We could stray and be taken back from this but no, we accept the Puran Sat. And that is Satnaam Di Hukam. Jai Satnaam Di Hukam!
We keep yourself, Dassan Dass Ji, the Sangat and many others across the world in our prayers, we don't ask for any seva anymore. Only to deliver all our lost brothers and sisters to Puran Sat. Then we apologize for even asking, Joh tera Hukam Satnaam Ji, it's all you, its upto you, we are nothing.
We sit comfortably in Sunn Smadhi, it is beautiful, the heart shimmers (like a phone call from beyond) and we go sit down usually around 5-6pm, and we just let go.
Looking back at the Sangat, we see the eyes glaring at the words spoken, seen to be rather suprising, witness the 5 vices still exist, that is their proof. Too much pride brother, too much pride. We will pray for them, we will never stop no matter what.
Harjit Bhaji just take these tests and laugh, then say to Satnaam please give me more, We are ours and we will remain yours no matter what. Then take to Naam, for that is the true medication of the irritable mind (maya). See your own reflection in those who test you, and regardless of how bad situation can appear, seek his name and realize it is all Hukam.
You do seem very much more aware, keep growing/evolving, find the great meditation.
From great awareness of all tests/illusions/implications/complications comes the inner peace, that is the secret.
Ask the Sangat to speak on their views of the last meeting in the open forum.
It would be a great education for all.
From all members, including. (Jaspal Ji, Naam Jeevan Ji)
Confession should never be difficult, only difficult for the Maya Dweller.
May we evolve together,
Your Brother & Slave
Tanraj Singh
From: Harjit <satsatsat@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/12/4
Subject: Re: Sangat on Friday - please reply with your own feelings.
To: satnaam@yahoogroups.com
Puneet: hey pajji, I know I am not the only one who feels like this.
Harjit: its only your pride thats getting offended, that is the enemy. No one else is the enemy. Anyone who shows you your weaknesses is your friend. In maya, we think our friends are the ones who flatter us, make us feel good, tell us how wonderful we are. In bhagti our friends are the ones who tell us how much desires we have, how much pride we have, show us how much anger we have. But in maya we want to defend ourself - defend what - "that i am someone , i deserver repect, etc etc" its all ego.
Puneet: very true
Harjit: thats the thing that is the hardest to give up. That is why this is a tough path. All the things we love in maya, that give us enjoyment and so on, we want to hold on to, but at the same time we want spiritual peace of mind and want to be in gods good books. Doesnt work like that. Maya is a sweet poison, until we let go of it , Naam cant reside in us. Thats why its tough.
Puneet: you are right pajji.
Harjit: Thats why we are supposed to surrender to our Guru, and the quicker we give up the sweet posion the more Naam saturates us. But then it becomes a game of faith and belief and trust.
Harjit: You are bringing maya thinking into the sangat, "she said this" or "she has favourites" or "she doesn't like me" etc etc. Talking about other people, their motives, what you think of them, what they said, what they did and so on is how people talk in the world and thats what you are used to - judging, criticising and so on. Get out of it all. On this path, dont talk about anyone else, "everyone else is good, no one is bad," says Baba Nanak. Then we avoid, gossiping, flattery, criticising, which can lead to slander, bad feelings, bad thoughts, frustrations, revenge, jealousy and all the other ills that effect the mind.
Puneet: She is not bad pajji and I am sorry if it sounds like ego talking, but i am trying to figure her out.
Harjit: why are you trying to figure her out? That's what we are trying to say, get out of trying to figure people out. Just figure yourself out. Your account is with God, her account is with God, so let God figure out others!
Puneet: I hope He does.
Puneet: But I am not a fan of hypocrisy...therefore one rule for one and one for another cannot be implied.
Harjit: Yes, so dont be a hypocrite yourself.
Harjit: Dassan Dass ji taught us in our ardas to always say to God, "I am the BIGGEST pakhandi (hypocrite), the bIGGEST traitor (loon harami), the most lustful, most egotistical, most greedy, most attached and most full of desires. I fully accept all of my misdeeds, please forgive me SatGuru Ji." Then keep confessing to God every 5 minutes during the day if you have to. Keep confessing to God what you really are inside. That's all Dassan Dass ji has asked us all to do.
Puneet: working on yourself is the key
Harjit: Yes. Why are we all hypocrites and traitors? Because God has given us everything, yet we say things our MINE. God gives us life, yet we say "I AM SOMEONE! I DID IT AND I AM DOING IT – JUST ME , MYSELF AND I" and deny God - our lifeforce. When God takes away our life, then we drop to the ground says Guru Tegh Bahadur ji, then were is our "I AM SOMEONE?"
Puneet: I have been talking to another person in the sangat and we might start our own little sangat in MK. I feel having it at Namjeevan's house has given her the sense of power and dictatorship therefore maybe staying away from the place and doing it somewhere else, eg the buddhist temple for example might be good.
Harjit: OK! You do whatever works for you! We are going to the place where we get slaps, that works for us!
Puneet: The only reason i would come to her house is to see you though, is that wrong?
Harjit: Yes. Guru Arjun Dev ji says, the one who gets rid of EVIL from in their own heart, sees the WHOLE WORLD as his friend. So who is the evil one, if you are seeing evil in others?
Puneet: nice quote. What if I send out invites to others to come to our own little sangat if I was to hold one, or is permission required from above?
Harjit: You are free to do whatever you like, there is no competition, people are welcome to get together and have sangat and remember God however and whenever they like. Just dont make your sangat into talking about other people, just focus on doing simran, serving sangat and others.
Puneet: So sangat is not something which requires permission from Baba ji or Dassan Dass ji?
Harjit: They dont control us, they say only God controls everything – HUKAM. All they have ever done is encouraged us, and all we have ever done is to ask for the blessings before we start anything. Otherwise there are plenty of sangats out there, but not all of them become one with God. Baba Ji said the sangat can't produce a SatGuru, but wherever the SatGuru goes, the sangat is formed.
Puneet: yes. Sorry pajji. I am trying. Hopefully, Baba ji can show me the way too, but I didnt like what she said. It was targeted. She would never say it to her favourites. Hence, it being a dictatorship....but I will have a think.
Harjit: Its all a learning curve for you. You have to try whatever is coming to your mind which will take you into heaven, hell and then if you are blessed you will realise the Truth We cant give you shortcuts with our words, your emotions are too strong, your beliefs in your own wisdom are too strong. You have to learn in your own way. Just as I did and am still doing so.
Puneet: Ahh pajji, I love the sangat. I just dont like dictatorship.
Harjit: We have learned to just accept everyone for what they are, and not to expect anything from anyone but God. When a holy person tells us something, it is god inside them telling the sangat what they need to hear, wether they like it or not – and you defintely didn't like it!
Puneet: exactly. Hence, she needs to accept everyone as they are.
Harjit: Our job is to touch the feet of the ones who have Naam inside them, serve them and do simran together, then thank everyone, share what we know and go home. That's it. No thinking about x,y and z afterwards.
Puneet: people wanna come just for peace let them come. I dont wanna give Daswandh.
I cant afford it yet, but in good time I will give to charity. She needs to realise people are not in her shoes. Everyone has own issues both financially and spirtually. I like coming to sangat. You know why? I find some peace. I may not be doing the simran everyday for 2 hours blah blah blah, but I am finding God. I think a good thing for me to do is speak with Baba ji.
Harjit: Now you finally told the truth, "I dont wanna give daswandh," and "I may not be doing the simran everyday for 2 hours blah blah blah."
Puneet: yes. The truth? I dont understand pajji.
Harjit: and in a previous mail you wrote that you want do seva (meaning you are not doing so at the moment)
Puneet: yes i do want to but I am not doing much much seva at moment though.
Harjit: and also you wrote once, that even though Namjeevan said in sangat to give up desires, but you are not going to, as since you started coming to sangat all your desires have been coming true eg getting your dream job etc. Do you notice what you are doing all the time?
Puneet: no? desiring?
Harjit: Firstly let's forget that Namjeevan said what she did about giving Daswandh and giving up desires as that is upsetting you. Lets go back to Dassan Dass Ji or Baba ji, or even back to Gurbani and Baba Nanak or any guru.
Puneet: OK.
Harjit: Regardless of Namjeevan saying it, the basic message of all the divine souls is to do seva. To do simran for 2.5 hrs a day. To give Daswandh to your Guru - the one who gave you naam, and also give to needy as well.
Puneet: My seva at the moment, is being nice, wishing well upon others, trying to better myself and make myself a better person. I shall provide to charity once I start my full time job.
Harjit: listen please, before replying.
Puneet: sorry.
Harjit: So all these things are tried and tested way for a Sikh to follow the Guru's path. But inside each of us is maya and none of really want to do any of these things because its tough so our mind reacts in two ways. Either a) we get defensive and justify why we are not doing these things. Alot of things you say fall into this category. dont worry we have done the same over the years. Or b) the way the true Sikh deals with it and that is to put it back on the Guru. How? By putting your hands together in ardas, "Dear Satguru ji, you have asked this fool to do these things, but this foolish mind is too stuck in maya to do so." Then you continue and talk to God-Guru about all your issues , difficulties and problems in doing these things that the Guru has asked us to.
"Dear Satguru ji, you are the giver of anything, I am too attached to my money even though I know it wont go with me. I spend money on things for myself that I don't need but just want, yet I claim I have no money to give. Guru ji I am fooling myself. Please forgive me, bless me with being able to give."
Then you move on to whatever maya talk your mind comes up with, "Satguru ji, you have asked us to do 2.5 hrs of simran a day, I am too attached to my sleep, I sleep late, I enjoy my night life, I have so many other things which are more enjoyable. I am a stubborn donkey Guru ji, please forgive me and clean me up and give me the gift of doing simran."
Puneet: Giving Daswandh is something also which should not be forced to do, but something you should do with love, so when its time, it will be time. Is that not right either?
Harjit: You didnt get the point.
Puneet: I do, I am in maya and thats why I cannot see that i should let go of all attachment,s including money, night life etc.
Harjit: yes, you are admitting you are in maya (until we become Gurmukh we are all Manmukhs says Dassan Dass ji). That's the first step to confessing. So whats the next step? Choice a (defend your maya actions), or choice b (apologise for them)?
Harjit: you keep going for choice a.
Puneet: will try to be choice b
Harjit: yes, it took us years to realise that.
Harjit: This is what the path is all about, becoming close to Guru ji within us and telling him all of our problems and our weaknesses. That is humbleness and when there is humbleness God's mercy rains down says Baba Nanak.
Puneet: all i can do is try, thats what i have done since i have been on this path. All I can do is keep the faith and keep trying.
Harjit: yes, thats all any of can do.
Puneet: if it is a battle within the mind then i hope the right side wins but thanks again guru ji.
Harjit: Realise when you hear choice a in your head, that is maya talking. so need to learn to discard all of that nonsense and go for choice b - humbleness.
Puneet: eat the humble pie! It may be tasteless but it always tastes better in the end.
Harjit: yes, well done grasshopper! Now hop along!
Puneet: bye bye pajji, have a good evening
NEXT DAY:
Puneet: Satnaam pajji, i hope you are well, just wanted to say that what you said yesterday did hit me as i was even thinking about whilst playing ps3 last night LOL! i shall try my best to overcome these demons and concentrate on myself before judging others. Hope you are well.
Harjit: all's good. That's what will save you, the fact that you listen and apply the new knowledge you get. That's what its all about.
Puneet: indeed.
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