From: "Gur Preeto" <satsatsat@gmail.com>
Date: 19 Nov 2014 10:56
Subject: Re: Always confirm your spiritual experiences with your guru
To: "Satnaam Group" <satnaam@yahoogroups.com>
Cc:
Satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam satnaam thx gurpreet ji. That's why in gurbani it keeps saying things like... Hum papee, hum mayla, hum moorakh mugadh sarnagatee kar kirpa milay Har soi, loon harami, vad guneghar, neeche te at neech, nanak neech..... And we have to do the same all the time. Share your wisdom, give credit to your guru, put ego down, take lowest place under gurus feet.
And remember although spiritual experiences are nice, they show you where u are inside, but baba ji says we have to see God in all those around us, right here right now. We always wanted spiritual experiences like u are having, we thought that shows us we are getting close to God. But baba ji told us from day one "I say to God why do I need to go to other realms to see you when I can see you here in one and all."
Even going through all experiences look at satguru jis, in the end they are serving God in us, and in all hearts around them.
Baba ji said when we lucid dream say "Dhan baba nanak ji" and it happened to us once and we said it, and we travelled at the speed of light to Dhan Dhan pritam anand jis feet. We told our daughter Harsimran, she was 8, she also did it in her dream, and went to baba nanak ji. Then she asked in the dream to see God himself and she woke up. We told her God is telling you he is right here right now, you don't need to look into other realms.
We realise all inner experiences are just showing us what areas of the mind we are conquering. Some see like you do, others see in dreams.. Like us sometimes, but mostly we can tell where we are by just looking at the thoughts and feelings inside us. If they are negative it's shiva, if it's list and anger etc it's five thieves, if it's desires and dreams, it's brahma. Then we do humble ardas and don't act on any of those thoughts. In the end their should he no more images or visions because no more mind, only formless light. Nirankar means God has no form, and no name, so nothing to tell others.
Sat gur parsaad
Meree mat thoree ram tu samrath vada.
Sat Paar Braham Dassan Dass Pita Ji Maharaaj Ji's teachings about spiritual experiences, intuitions, visions and shukham haumai.
We want to convey another message to all satnaam parivaar. This is about experiences you folks have been sharing with sangat, though it is a blessing to have such spiritual experiences, which deeply motivate the people sharing what they see, and also the ones who read them, but even more important for the ones who share such experiences is to understand these experiences better in the right perspective and in all its truthfulness than to merely write about it so from now onwards we want to make sure that whenever you have such experiences you really understand the depth of these happenings in all its truthfulness, otherwise these can prove to be damaging to you, so please from now onwards share your experiences with us only and then after we make sure you understand what you have seen in all its depth and truthfulness, and that sharing it doesn't hurt you, then we will share them with the sangat.
Second point we want to make here is for you all who read such experiences, please read them and understand them in the right perspective and in its depth and truthfulness, and don't compare it with yourself, use it for motivating yourself and doing more simran and seva, and not to feel negative and disheartened that you are lagging so behind. Take it positively and think that how blessed is the sangat that we are a part of and how blessed are we to be a part of so highly blessed people.
All of you have free access to dassan dass and you can ask any questions regarding your bandgi and experiences and whatever you may have in your mind, we will help you all, that is our responsibility.
The next point we want to make is that whenever you have spiritual experiences you should be going in to more humbleness and humility rather than feeling proud of what you are experiencing, as your humbleness and humility go deeper you will go higher in your bandgi, but if you take pride in it then you can damage your bandgi.
Always dedicate whatever you see and experience to the sat charans of the satguru, and never feel that you have attained that capability that you see what you see, look at gurbani, whatever second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and ninth satgurus experienced they all dedicated their achievements to dhan dhan Satgur Avtar Nanak patshah jee, they never took any credit for their bandgi and seva, so this fine layer of pride is what can really damage your bandgi big time.
This is what happened with some sangat a few years back when they were carried away this suksham haumai (subtle ego).Your satguru will tell you when your bandgi is complete and when you are capable to handle the sangat and seva, same way as bhai lehna jee was blessed by dhan dhan Satgur Nanak patshah jee and this divine hukam carried through forever and is true at the present moment as well.
Your inner intution and voice can be misleading, so please keep that in your mind always and forever.
We will continue with this divine wisdom in the future as well, so please feel free and blessed and stay focused on your simran and seva.
Sat sat sat bless you.
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