Monday 11 January 2010

Re: [Truth] Death of this Brave Sikh - Please do kirpa over him God

SatNaam Veer ji, we know nothing.
Our prayers are with the family.  May Satguru ji bless them and his soul.
 
However, you wrote: "I strongly feel this guy did the right action however what happened to him wasn't right. "
 
I= ego.
what happened to him wasn't right = not accepting the hukam.
 
So your one statement is showing your ego is not accepting the hukam.
 
As Baba ji said to us, everything happens because KARMA OVERRULES EVERYTHING.  We dont know the full karma of the man's soul with his murderers.  We have only seen a glimpse of their story in this life, and we decide "what happened to him wasn't right."
 
Baba Ji said if it has happened i.e. EVERYTHING IN THE PAST, then accept it as HUKAM.
 
But going forwrd, so good deeds and thoughts as you reap what you sow.
 
 
Personally, in that situation, dying to save a ladies handbag was a pointless death.  If they had run off with her child , then it was worth chasing them.  But for a handbag?   But he proabably chased them on the principle that they had no right to attack a defenceless woman.  He was defending her rights.   Personally, we think that is what the police are here for, that is why we have law and order.  There are a lot of crazy people out there, we have a system to deal with them.  Trying to be a hero, a one man, hero didnt work.  I used to live in this illusion that "I was a Khalsa - a saint soldier"  , I wore blue bana and two kirpans and two turbans - even whilst walking around the streets.  I tried learning gatka and thought of myself as a saint saoldier.  However, with gurParsaad we realised that we were just an office worker, unfit and using the saint-soldier outfit as an escapism from facing reality, and living in the past.    The Saint-soldiers of the past were so because there was no law and order.  Guru Gobind Singh ji made the saint-soldiers to be the police force, to be the army, to stand up to the tyrants.  But we have police force, we have an army and we have law and order.   So we can get on with facing reality that we are family people, office workers whose duty  its isto finish our kamra within our family, and do our bhagti.  And if and when the time comes that we have to stand up to tyrants of thieve or criminals then let us do it in the nest way.  Eg the Singh who died could have given emotional support to the women after the attack and called the police and given a good description of the attackers.  That would have been his good deed - we guess he carried a kirpan himself, but did not know how to use it or how to fight.  This is the illusion that I , and proaably most initiated Sikhs live in - that they are soldiers because of their kirpan.  REality is, they are unfit and have no idea how to defend themselves never mind others.
 
So try and live in the reality of where god has placed us, not in illusion of past glories of the real saint soldiers.
 
And use the right weapons for every situation.   The weapon in this situation was to call the police, not to chase them and get stabbed.
 
We feel you would have chased the guy as well in that situation, but would you do that because your ANGER thief arose and wanted to TEACH THEM A LESSON?    
 
Just our opinion.
 
Dust of your feet
Harjit
 

 
2010/1/10 Harmeet Singh <notorious_munda@msn.com>
 

Actually, My mum told me about this incident when she got home today. I strongly feel this guy did the right action however what happened to him wasn't right. He surely didn't die in vein trying to help others. Please do Kirpa over this soul God and SatGuru Ji and give him the GurParsaad.
 
Please Sat Sangat, lets all pray for him, May God bless him and his family to come out of the mental trauma they will be going through at the moment.
 
 
 



Sikh Hero Stabbed To Death In Street

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6:25pm UK, Saturday January 09, 2010
Mark Langford, Sky News Online

A man was stabbed to death while trying to stop two muggers who had stolen a woman's bag.
Sukhwinder Singh pursued two men who robbed a 28-year-old woman near Barking station in east London.
When he caught up with the pair a fight broke out and the 31-year-old was knifed.
Mr Singh chased the robbers along Victoria Road into Uphall Road before he was attacked just before 7pm on Friday.
He was taken to the Royal London hospital but later died. A post-mortem is due to take place.

Detective Inspector John Sandlin, of the Metropolitan Police, said: "This is a tragic death of a man who was killed for attempting to stop others committing crime, and our thoughts are with Sukhwinder's family.
"However, I would also to reassure the wider community that tragic events such as these are very rare.
"I am appealing for anyone that knows who committed this crime, or who has any information about those who committed this crime, to do the right thing and come forward and contact police.
"My officers are also keen to hear from anybody who witnessed the initial robbery, the actual altercation that led to the stabbing and additionally anyone who may have seen any persons matching the suspect's description fleeing the Uphall Road area.

"It is also possible that the suspects may have abandoned the bag stolen and I appeal to anyone who may find a brown leather shoulder bag, to contact police.
"It may be that it has significant clues that could help solve this awful crime."
The two robbers were both black men in their 20s or 30s and 5ft 7in to 6ft.
The incident room can be contacted on 0208 345 3715 or call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


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